Podcast – Perfect Keto

143: James Connolly – The Real Issues That Need to Be Addressed With Our Food System

Dr. Anthony Gustin, DC, MS — Mon, 26 Jul 2021 05:01:38 +0000

There’s a nutritional war going on, funded by these industries, that happens every time we talk about the vilification of meat and saturated fats.
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I’ve mentioned before on this podcast how our food system is messed up and what it’s going to take to fix things and my guest James Connolly, producer of two documentaries, Sacred Cow and Death in the Garden, is here to discuss this even further and explain exactly what we’re dealing with.

James has a unique background, which he talks about in the episode, and he brings a ton of experience in this space and knowledge to the table.

James first revolutionized the food system in some inner-city schools in New York and eventually went on to produce documentaries that highlight the true reality of the situation.

In this episode, you’ll learn about how our food system evolved, the issues it faced back then and today, what’s really driving these issues today, and what it’s going to take to fix this.

James also tackles the environmental issues with our food system, why he was a vegan for nine months and what happened as a result, and what’s going to happen if we don’t properly address these issues.

James also shares more about the research behind vegan documentaries and how his research is different and he wraps the episode up sharing the incredible story of Steven Dozinger, a social justice activist that’s been wrongfully incarcerated.

There’s massive social justice issues that everyone should pay attention to but we end up talking about plant-based versus meat, which is ridiculous.
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As mentioned above, James Connolly is the producer of the documentaries Sacred Cow and Death in the Garden and he’s also the co-producer of The Sustainable Dish podcast.

In addition, James is an artist, chef, and non-profit co-founder of The Bubble Foundation, which focuses on issues of wellness and food insecurity in inner-city public schools.

James is a super awesome human and I personally love the work he’s been doing which is why I can’t wait to share this episode with you.

When you tune in, you’ll discover:

What James is currently up to
James’ extensive background and how he found himself in this space
Changing the food system in some inner-city New York schools
His experience with a vegan diet and what he thinks about it now
Why a vegan diet is on the rise in the educational system
James also shares several book recommendations for those interested in diving in deeper
Where the argument that meat is destroying the environment came from and how this misinformation has actually hurt us even more
How James approaches changing our food system and why he’s so passionate about doing so
Where James thinks we’re headed if we don’t fix these problems now rather than later
What can we do to fix this?
What James is doing to address these issues
More about the documentaries James is working on
The problem with vegan documentaries that most people don’t know
Where James gets his research from
The story of Steven Donziger and why James wants to draw attention to it

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Mentioned in This Episode

James Connolly’s website
James Connolly’s Instagram and Twitter
The story of Steven Donziger and how to help his cause

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142: Chris Duffin – How to Strengthen Your Mind, Body, Relationships, and More

Dr. Anthony Gustin, DC, MS — Mon, 19 Jul 2021 07:43:04 +0000

When you fail but then come back, you learn more, try harder, try a different way, and you learn that you have the ability to overcome.
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He’s the only person to squat and deadlift over 1000 pounds for reps, he holds the Guinness World Record for the sumo deadlift, and he’s been the number one ranked lifter in the world for eight years.

If you haven’t figured out who I’m talking about yet, my guest is best-selling author, speaker, inventor, engineer, and co-owner of Kabuki Strength, Build Fast Formula, and Barefoot Athletics, Chris Duffin (or muffin with a “D” as he mentions in the episode).

He’s an amazing human being — and an incredibly strong one both mentally and physically — who has had an interesting upbringing on top of everything I just listed.

He comes on the show to share how to strengthen all parts of your life, including your mindset, relationships, body, and so much more.

Chris also shares why it’s crucial for parents to pursue their dreams, how failure is your best teacher and why it’s necessary, what’s possible when you apply yourself to insurmountable tasks, and why you don’t need a bucket list.

He also chats about the five “whys”, filling your cup and how to do this, and how to really establish your values.

This is another jam-packed episode you don’t want to miss.

You can accomplish so much and move so much further if you focus on your core values.
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Chris Duffin has an engineering background, he’s earned an MBA, and he’s the best-selling author of The Eagle and the Dragon.

He’s also earned a Guinness World Record for the sumo deadlift, he’s the only person to squat and deadlift over 1000 pounds for reps, and he’s a serial entrepreneur and inventor who has already created products to improve human mechanics.

Chris has also co-founded Kabuki Strength, Build Fast Formula, and Barefoot Athletics and, with such an extensive background, he knows what it takes to build strength in all areas of your life.

And he comes on the show to share this knowledge.

Here’s a peek at what Chris and I get into:

Chris’ unique upbringing and what his childhood looked like
The lessons he learned from growing up with several trauma situations
How his mom lives intentionally in the wilderness
Why it can be traumatic living outside
How Chris marries modern society with his wilderness roots
How text posture negatively affects our health
Internal values and values for your family
What Chris’ family values look like and how he’s raising his children
The importance of physical activity
Why parents should pursue their dreams and what happens when they don’t set that example for their kids
Sleep and recovery
The cup analogy and how Chris fills his up
Why conflict-free environments don’t help you challenge yourself
How Chris balances work, his passion projects, and being there for his family
Why it’s crucial to give yourself creative time
Looking at things in your life from a value perspective
Why Chris believes having a bucket list is a bad thing
What his life looks like on this new path
Training barefoot and spending more time without shoes on
The story behind Nike’s shoe design and what we can learn from it
Changing your epigenetics
Why Chris is a huge proponent of focusing on blood flow
Daily nitrate use

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Mentioned in This Episode

Chris Duffin’s website (where you can find the first half of his book or the Audible offer mentioned in the episode)
Chris Duffin’s Instagram and Facebook
Chris’ book, The Eagle and The Dragon
Chris’ Kabuki Strength website

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141: Justin Mares – Changing the Food System With Regenerative Agriculture

Dr. Anthony Gustin, DC, MS — Wed, 14 Jul 2021 01:32:09 +0000

It’s super concerning that real food is being demonized and made out to be a villain.
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Perfect Keto and Kettle & Fire co-founder Justin Mares has been on this podcast before but this episode is completely different from his first one.

In that one, Justin and I chatted about how we both got started in this space, the truth about the Blue Zones, sleep issues, and more.

This time, we dive head first into fixing our food system, which is why I’m excited to bring him back on.

Justin and I both agree that using a regenerative agriculture approach is the way to go and fake meats and plant-based diets are destroying our planet, not beef.

Justin also talks about how using regenerative agriculture affects the supply chain, why farmers and ranchers are resistant to switch over, and how to get more people educated on its benefits.

You’ll also learn about how we’re repeating history with a different weapon of choice, the problems with fake meats and popular plant-based foods like almond milk, why we need to quickly shift in the opposite direction away from fake food, and why many plant-based companies are heavily invested in promoting these foods to make a profit.

Justin also shares what it’s been like to weave regenerative agriculture into his Kettle & Fire bone broth brand.

The reality is, if you eat a ton of sugar, vegetable oils, and carbs, it’s going to impact your physiology, how you feel, and your rate of weight loss.
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If you don’t know, Justin Mares is the co-founder of Perfect Keto and Kettle & Fire, best-selling author of Traction: How Any Startup Can Achieve Explosive Customer Growth, and king of side hustles.

Together, we cover a ton of ground in this episode and we dive deep into two topics we’re both passionate about: fixing our food system and making regenerative agriculture more mainstream.

Tune in now and you’ll hear about these topics and more:

What the next big wave in the food system looks like
The controversial major change popular recipe website Epicurious made and why they were motivated to do it
Why fake meat companies have to rely heavily on advertising
Does real food stand a chance against these fake meats?
What history has taught us about the evolution of our food system
The ramifications from those issues in the past
The big food culprits behind how you feel
How meat versus plant-based food systems really affect our planet
Solving the myth that meat-producing farms use more water than plant-based ones
How Kettle & Fire are working with their supply chain to use more bones from regeneratively grown animals
Why regenerative agriculture hasn’t caught on and what it takes to do so
What we learned from Belcampo and the issues they ran into with their supply chain during the pandemic
How can you educate people about regenerative agriculture?
How do you make people aware of the taste differences between conventional meat and regeneratively grown meat?

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Mentioned in This Episode

Justin Mares’ website (where you can sign up for his newsletter)
Justin Mares’ Twitter

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140: Tim Grover – What It Takes to Win in Life

Dr. Anthony Gustin, DC, MS — Mon, 28 Jun 2021 05:01:22 +0000

When you get knocked down and you fail, stay down there for a little bit. Figure out why you were down there, what got you down there, and if you stand up will it happen again?
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Have you ever wondered how elite athletes like Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant are able to be so successful?

I’m not talking about their physical feats because we all know they’re incredibly athletic.

I’m talking about their mindset.

What does the mindset of an elite athlete look like?

My special guest today, Tim Grover, best-selling author, speaker, and personal trainer to many top athletes, not only has a peek into their mental state, he also helps shape them and creates a victory mentality and he comes on the show to share all about this.

Tim dives into what a victory mentality looks like, the definition of winning, the victim mentality and how to overcome this, and how to stack momentum.

Tim also shares tips for how you can change your life, why you should focus on the uncontrollable things that come at you, using routines, and the huge difference between trying your best and doing your best.

You’ll also hear Tim’s thoughts on finding balance, the separation between emotions and performance, and what to do if you’re in a rut.

When you try your best you give yourself an out. If you do your best, that’s completely different. Doing your best gives you that victory mentality. Trying your best gives you an out and allows you to blame other individuals.
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If you don’t know Tim Grover, he’s a best-selling author, keynote speaker, and personal trainer who has worked with incredible athletes such as Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, and more.

He’s created his Relentless System for helping people reach unimaginable heights personally and professionally so that they can be their absolute best.

As for his background, he earned a Master’s degree in Exercise Science and he was a former NCAA Division I basketball player.

He’s also been inducted into the UIC Hall of Fame with the Lifetime Achievement Award in 2010.

You may have even seen him on the docuseries The Last Dance.

Tim’s a super great guy who knows what it takes to achieve a victory mentality and he comes on the show to share this and dissect how he works with top athletes and more.

In this episode, you’ll discover:

Tim Grover’s background and how he found himself training elite basketball players and top CEOs
Defining what it means to win
Has winning changed for Tim now that he’s been at it for so long?
How the steps of winning look different than traditional frameworks
What to do if you’re in a rut
The problem with burning yourself out in an attempt to win
Getting past a victim mindset and how to uncover what that looks like
Trusting your instincts as it relates to winning
Having routines and focusing on uncontrollables
How to respond to uncontrollable things that come up in life
How to respond to failure and how elite individuals differ in their response
The separation between emotions and performance and what that looks like in action
The reality of trying to achieve balance
What happens when you achieve your goals but find you’re still miserable and unhappy?
What keeps Tim going now that he’s achieved so much

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Mentioned in This Episode

Tim Grover’s website
Tim Grover’s Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube channel
Tim Grover’s books Relentless: From Good to Great to Unstoppable and W1NNING

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139: Eric Perner – Optimizing Regenerative Agriculture for a Better Future for Our Planet

Dr. Anthony Gustin, DC, MS — Mon, 07 Jun 2021 05:01:22 +0000

Monocrops have a devastating impact on ecosystems and species extinction and there’s a huge risk if we go down this path of rewarding companies promoting a plant-based system.
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I’ve had a few guests on this podcast come on and talk about regenerative agriculture, a topic near and dear to my heart, and I’m excited to share another great one with you.

Eric Perner is the founder of Rep Provisions, a regenerative ranch in Oklahoma that’s making incredible strides in this space.

Eric and his team actively work to regenerate America’s grasslands to produce clean foods that benefit people, animals, and our planet.

And he comes on the show to share all of the fascinating things he’s up to with regards to that.

So you’ll hear about how Eric took over a ranch in Oklahoma and completely transformed it in the years he’s had it. You’ll also discover his regenerative agriculture methods, why they work so well, and the powerful results he’s seen since implementing his practices.

Eric also chats about some of the problems regenerative agriculture farmers face, how monocrop farms are destroying our planet, and what it’s going to take to fix our food system.

We also dive into how regenerative agriculture can transform the omega 6 to omega 3 ratios in pork, how regenerative farms follow natural cycles found in nature and work seamlessly as a result, and so much more.

If you’re putting pigs in their natural environment, the ratio of omega 6 to omega 3s in their meat is dramatically lower just by putting them on grass.
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As you’ll learn in this episode, Eric’s dad taught him the importance of using farming practices that align with nature and work with it to make it better than it was before.

He adopted this style of farming and took it further by optimizing the farm he took over where he uses regenerative agriculture to maximize land usage and promote a healthier environment.

When you tune in, you’ll be amazed and impressed with how much Eric’s been able to accomplish in such a short amount of time and how it benefits people, animals, and the environment as a result.

If you’re into the regenerative agriculture space or you’re looking to learn the benefits that come with this powerful farming method, this is an episode you don’t want to miss.

Here’s a peek at some of the topics we cover in this episode:

Eric’s background and how he found himself in the regenerative agriculture space
How his dad influenced his regenerative agriculture principles
His definition of grass-fed versus regenerative agriculture
The core principles he uses in his farm
How Allan Savory influenced the way he operated his farm and what he implemented as a result
How his farm transformed over time from using a regenerative agriculture model
What inputs he uses in his farm, why he chose them, and how this differs from traditional farmers
The mineral content of his soil
Why he added hogs and goats to his cattle farm and what he’s seen from doing this
Can poultry and pork farms really turn regenerative?
The inherent issues with monocrop farms and why they’re so detrimental
How the hogs and goats interact seamlessly and what this does for Eric’s farm
Eric’s thoughts on scaling regenerative farming and the most common issues he faces when trying to do this
Why he’s part of a five family farming partnership
How regenerative farming effects humanity
The destruction monocrop farms cause
Testing fat in pork to determine the omega ratios

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Mentioned in This Episode

Eric Perner’s Rep Provisions website
Eric Perner’s Rep Provisions’ Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube channel

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138: Brad Marshall – The Science Behind Fat Storage

Dr. Anthony Gustin, DC, MS — Wed, 02 Jun 2021 05:30:49 +0000

You see this 15% drop in metabolic rates in America as soon as vegetable oils are introduced.
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In my first episode with molecular biologist Brad Marshall, we dove into food sources of linoleic acid and how consuming these effects you on a mitochondrial level.

The feedback I received on that episode was so great that I decided to bring him back for round two where we dive into the science of fat storage and what you can do once your metabolism goes out of whack from consuming too much vegetable oils and sugar.

As Brad explains, it’s not just as simple as removing these items from your diet, although that is a great first step to take.

Instead, it’s about understanding a gnarly process called SCD1, which Brad and I tackle in this episode, and stopping it dead in its tracks so that you can start to burn your own fat again.

By doing this, you’ll be able to lose fat and keep it off once and for all.

On top of that, Brad and I also chat about what we can learn from animals who hibernate and how this translates to human health, the role leptin plays in fat storage, and whether there’s a genetic component at play here.

We also chat about changing your metabolic rate and how you can do this, the desaturase index and how it relates to obesity, and so much more.

This is another jam-packed podcast episode that dives into the science behind fat storage and it’s one you don’t want to miss.

Your metabolic rate is tightly tied to how saturated your fat is.
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If you didn’t catch Brad’s first episode (which is linked below), he’s an incredible wealth of knowledge.

He went to Cornell to study molecular biology, he started a charcuterie business and several successful restaurants, and, most recently, he branched out into pig farming.

Brad’s also known for starting The Croissant Diet and he’s a food historian who shares several fun facts along the way.

Here’s a peek at what Brad and I discuss in this round two episode:

The research Brad’s been doing lately and since we last spoke
Comparing animals who hibernate and what we can learn from them
How your metabolic rate is tied to how saturated your fat is
What happens when you eat a lot of linoleic acid
The desaturase index, including what this measures and why it matters
The correlation between the desaturase index and obesity
The connection between SCD1 and fat tissue
SCD1 and what happens to it when you eat too much sugar and vegetable oils
How to get to a preferred alternate metabolic mode
What suppresses SCD1 and why that matters
Is there a genetic component to this? If so, how does that affect things?
Should you fast to reduce the amount of unsaturated fat found in your fat tissues?
The role leptin plays in fat storage
What helped me break through a weight loss plateau and why it worked
Why the goal should be more about calories out than calories in
Is there anything else you can eat or take to fix this problem?
How you can quickly test your metabolic rate at home
What Brad took that lowered his triglycerides and LDL cholesterol levels

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Brad Marshall’s website
Brad Marshall’s Twitter and Instagram
Brad’s latest research on Torpor, Sloth and Gluttony: SCD1 Causes Humans to Store Fat

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137: Dr. Anthony Gustin (Q&A #11) – Keto and Gut Health, Adjusting Carb and Fiber Intake, Eating Fat for Better Health, and Pregnancy Advice

Dr. Anthony Gustin, DC, MS — Mon, 03 May 2021 05:01:02 +0000

We’re so far away from eating foods we should be eating, which leads us to being diabetic, fat, sick, or low in energy.
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There’s been close to twenty episodes published since Chris Irvin, our Education Manager at Perfect Keto, the co-author of our book Keto Answers, and The Ketologist, and I sat down for our last Q&A and we have a ton of great updates to share since then.

Thanks to our awesome listeners like you, the questions keep pouring in, which is why we knew we had to come together for another Q&A episode.

This time, we’re answering questions like:

Are you guys still following a keto diet?

What does your current carb and fiber intake look like these days?

Do you eat breakfast?

Do you avoid nightshades?

Do you change your protein intake throughout the year?

Chris and I also chat about the latest pregnancy advice and how this is beyond outdated, the harmful ingredients found in formula, and what really makes up breastmilk.

We also dive into stearic acid, linoleic acid, and how the different types of fat affects our health, and so much more.

This is another jam-packed Q&A episode you don’t want to miss.

Many things in health — sleep, diet, exercise, etc. — are really just things we have to focus on and pay attention to and put energy into.
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If this is your first time tuning in, my name is Dr. Anthony Gustin and I’m a board-certified chiropractor, a functional medicine practitioner, and the founder of Perfect Keto and Equip Foods.

It’s my belief that our artificial habitats have forced us into having artificial health problems and this show is my attempt to dive deep into topics like nutrition, sleep, movement, relationships, and more so you can reclaim your natural state of health.

In this episode, Chris Irvin, our Education Manager at Perfect Keto, the co-author of our book Keto Answers, and The Ketologist, joins me to answer more great questions from our listeners.

You’ll also hear more about how Chris and his wife are expecting their first child and what their journey has been like so far.

Here’s a look at everything Chris and I get into in this episode:

Is a keto diet bad for gut health?
Gut issues from a high fiber intake
Do you still follow a keto lifestyle? And, if so, what does that look like?
What is your current carb intake?
How my carb intake changed when I traveled to Africa, Miami, and Costa Rica
What a typical carb intake looks like
Does your protein intake change with the seasons?
What I do if I’m eating more carbs
Where you should buy your produce from
Are there any vegetables you avoid?
What is your go-to breakfast?
Stearic acid
Saturated fat, linoleic acid, and avoiding trans fat
Pregnancy advice
Saturated fat in breastmilk
Is fiber necessary?

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Dr. Anthony Gustin’s website
Dr. Anthony Gustin’s Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube channel
Ned Full-Spectrum CBD oil, plus a discount code

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136: Brad Marshall – How PUFAs and Vegetable Oils Negatively Impact Health

Dr. Anthony Gustin, DC, MS — Mon, 26 Apr 2021 05:01:39 +0000

Organic poultry and pork have more linoleic acid than if you bought conventionally grown versions at the grocery store.
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If you’re a regular listener of this podcast, then you’ve heard me talk to a few experts about how vegetable oils are wreaking havoc on our health.

Those discussions shed light on a growing problem but I knew I wanted to dive in deeper, which is exactly what this episode is all about.

I sit down with Brad Marshall, a molecular biologist and pig farmer who aims to cut down the amount of PUFAs in our meat supply, to dive into the exact mechanisms at play when we consume harmful vegetable oils.

Brad and I talk about how these vegetable oils are sneaking into our systems through our food supply and what happens when they enter our body.

So you’ll learn about how they disrupt health on a cellular level and where they wreak havoc once they’re there.

You’ll also discover the surprising differences between linoleic acid levels in organic and conventionally grown meat, how our fat cells respond to these foreign substances, and what the latest research shows.

Brad also chats about the differences between different fats, such as saturated fat, polyunsaturated fats, and monounsaturated fats and so much more.

Brad and I go down a rabbit hole into some deep scientific tangents so if you’re someone who loves to nerd out like us, this episode is for you.

On average, most chicken is around 20% polyunsaturated fat and most pork is around 16%.
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As you’ll hear about in this episode, Brad is a jack of all trades. He went to Cornell to study molecular biology and then eventually went off to start his own charcuterie business and opened up several restaurants.

He even branched out into pig farming, started The Croissant Diet, and became a food historian along the way.

Brad is incredibly knowledgeable in this space, which is why I knew I had to get him on the show.

When you tune in, you’ll discover:

Brad’s background in molecular biology and how he found himself interested in this space
Brad also shares his experience with opening a charcuterie business to going on to opening restaurants and then eventually starting his own farm and what he learned along the way
The differences in American pork and European pork and why that happens
Polyunsaturated fats in vegetable oils and how they get into our food supply
Saturated fats, monounsaturated fats, and polyunsaturated fat differences
How the fat in a ribeye steak compares in monounsaturated fat and saturated fat
Which is higher in saturated fat: dairy or beef?
What happens when conventionally raised meat is fed a diet of corn and soybeans
Bioaccumulation of linoleic acids and how this affects us
How the body fat composition of Americans has changed since the 60s, 90s, and up until now and why that happened
The problem with pigs and poultry when conventionally grown
What changes with organically grown meat
Hyperlipids
The electron transport chain
Basic components of converting chemical energy from fat
Glycolysis
How linoleic acid creates improper signals in the body
Linoleic acid, stearic acid
The mechanisms behind insulin resistance in fat cells
Reactive oxygen species
Lipogenesis
What happens when you eat starch

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Brad Marshall’s website
Brad Marshall’s Twitter and Instagram
Reddit discussion on saturated fats

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135: Dr. Paul Saladino – The Hadza Tribe Part Two: Q&A

Dr. Anthony Gustin, DC, MS — Mon, 15 Mar 2021 07:46:03 +0000

When humans are in their natural state, happiness is the default mode.
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If you tuned into the first episode I did with Dr. Paul Saladino on the Hadza tribe, then you know that we visited this incredible group of people, which also happens to be one of the last hunter-gatherer tribes, a few weeks ago.

We spent as much time as possible immersing ourselves in their culture and their way of life, among other things, and we talked all about it in the first episode.

We’re back today to answer some of the top questions we received after airing that episode.

So Dr. Saladino and I will get into answers like do they really eat as much fiber as previous studies have stated, why they’re so happy, were they territorial, do they marry, and what a typical tribe is like today.

We also chat about if they’re monogamous, how they raise their children, their life expectancy, whether women hunt, if they read or write, and what their typical diet looks like.

Dr. Saladino and I also run off on some tangents surrounding some recent studies published about the people in this region, myths associated with this tribe, the body positivity movement, the fallacy of Blue Zones, and what we should learn from this incredible group of people.

This is another jam-packed episode that’s over two hours long and dives into a ton of interesting topics surrounding our trip to Africa and meeting with the Hadza tribe.

So if you’ve ever wanted to step back in time to see what life used to be like and how it should be today, this episode is for you.

Eat the least amount of refined foods as possible.
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Dr. Paul Saladino, best-selling author and The Carnivore MD, is a great friend of mine and repeat podcast guest who went on this incredible journey with me.

While he’s come on the show a few times before to talk about cholesterol and eating a meat-based diet, we focused most of our time in this episode diving into listener questions on our trip to the Hadza tribe.

In this episode, you’ll discover:

A recent study that examined urbanization in healthy Tanzanian populations
Our experience with the health of people living in urbanized cities versus out in nature and rural areas
The fallacy that the Hadza tribe eats 150g of fiber per day
Why eating honey does not lead to metabolic dysfunction
Why it’s crucial to get back to nature in both diet and movement
Why the Hadza are such a happy group of people
The biggest lever when it comes to food
Would we ever try to bring someone from the Hadza tribe to the US?
One thing that amazed the Hadza tribe the most that they would be interested in experiencing
Were the Hadza people territorial?
Was there a hierarchy in the tribe?
Is there a chief?
How many Hadza are left?
What is a typical tribe size?
Why the Hadza are considered endangered
What their diet consists of
What did their hygiene look like?
Did they smell?
Do the Hadza people marry?
Are they monogamous?
Do they masturbate?
Is clitoral mutilation really happening?
Do they have chronic diseases and other health issues like eczema?
Thoughts on our current trend of body positivity and what we saw in the Hadza tribe
What do the women do all day?
Do the women hunt?
Is there ever abuse or violence within the tribe?
Circumcision in males
Do the Hadza people read or write?
Do they have a formal education system?
What does their nutrition look like?
Do they eat dairy or eggs?
Do they preserve their meat?
Do they take vaccines or use Western medicine?
What are their teeth like?
How active was a typical hunt?
Could you train to mimic a Hadza hunt?
Did you ever fear for your life during this trip?
Blue Zones and the fallacies associated with them
How long do the Hadza people typically live?
Do hunter-gatherer tribes live shorter lives?

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Mentioned in This Episode

Dr. Paul Saladino’s website
Dr. Saladino’s YouTube channel, Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter

More Resources

- The Natural State Podcast Episode 134: Dr. Paul Saladino – What We Learned from One of the Last Hunter-Gatherer Tribes
- Is Honey Keto? Your Guide to Honey on the Keto Diet

The Natural State Podcast Episode 072: Justin Mares – The History of Perfect Keto, Problems with Food Manufacturing, Lab-Grown Meat, Sleep Issues, and Why the Blue Zones May Not Be Accurate

134: Dr. Paul Saladino – What We Learned from One of the Last Hunter-Gatherer Tribes

Dr. Anthony Gustin, DC, MS — Mon, 08 Mar 2021 06:01:50 +0000

Meat was really the central food for humans for the last few million years of our life.
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If you follow me on Instagram or you’re a regular listener of this podcast, then you know that I recently took a trip to Africa with my good friend, The Carnivore MD Dr. Paul Saladino.

We traveled halfway across the world to study one of the last remaining hunter-gatherer tribes, the Hadza, to learn more about their way of life, which has been unaffected for over 50,000 years now.

And what we found was more than just eye-opening, which is why this episode is jam-packed and over two hours long.

When you tune in, you’ll discover what the Hadza people typically eat, what their gut microbiome looks like as a result, the problems they’re currently facing, and why they choose to remain a hunter-gatherer society despite other local tribes switching courses.

You’ll also learn about ugali, a food missionaries introduced to the tribe, how they fare with key blood markers and chronic diseases, some myths that were introduced in early research on the tribe, and so much more.

Dr. Saladino and I also asked the tribe some questions and their responses were super interesting.

We also learned about gender roles and how the Hadza live with an abundance mindset.

This is a super interesting episode you don’t want to miss. As Dr. Saladino mentions in the episode, our trip was like taking a trip back in time using a DeLorean. We experienced exactly how life should be lived and how it’s been done uninterrupted for several decades now.

The Hadza are fascinating because they are free from chronic diseases.
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You may recognize my guest Dr. Paul Saladino if you’re a regular listener of this podcast. He’s a best-selling author and The Carnivore MD and he’s been on the show multiple times now.

This episode is a little different though in that we only talk about our trip to Africa and what we learned from it.

So even if you’ve heard one of Dr. Saladino’s episodes in the past, this one is completely different and one you won’t want to miss.

Here’s a look at some of the topics Dr. Saladino and I get into::

The moments that stood out to both Dr. Paul Saladino and I during our trip with the Hadza tribe
Why I went on this trip in the first place and what I was hoping to uncover
The microbiome of the Hadza tribe
The problems the Hadza tribe are currently facing and their thoughts on them
What they talked about the most
The foods they prefer
What they dream about
What’s considered a good day for them
How they eat nose to tail
What I thought about eating baboon brains
Is it possible to transfer diseases while eating animal organs?
Why I ate way more fruit than I normally would and what happened as a result
What happened when I returned to the States and ate fruit
More about the abundance mindset the Hadza had
Ugali, including what that is and why it was introduced to the Hadza tribe
How the Hadza tribe viewed food
Chronic diseases and the Hadza tribe
Blood markers in the Hadza tribe
Gender roles in the Hadza tribe
Why they continue to live as a hunter-gatherer tribe
Salt in the Hadza diet
Life expectancy in the Hadza tribe and the dispelling the myths associated with this
Compression of morbidity and squaring of morbidity
The fallacy of Blue Zones
The fiber myth of the Hadza tribe
What the Hadza tribe is not doing when it comes to food
The one thing Dr. Saladino noticed about the teeth of the Hadza people and why that’s happening

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Mentioned in This Episode

Dr. Paul Saladino’s website
Dr. Saladino’s YouTube channel, Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter